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Thanks for this, Peter! This was a really thoughtful analysis that speaks to many of my concerns about Substack. Sent you a few bucks for coffee.

When it was just an email platform, I thought their hands off approach to moderation was defensible and maybe even a way to build a better internet. Maybe. But then they launched a social network and here we are.

On the free speech topic, I find it fascinating that so many people on Substack parrot the party line about free speech without ever bothering to read Substack's content policy, which bans a lot of speech, including porn and advertising (sorry, Coke, no free speech for you). I know, I know people don't bother to read that stuff, but when you point it out to them on Notes, holy shit do they lose their minds and yell free speech even louder.

By the way, porn and Substack are an interesting combo, at least for me. In January, I wrote about going to a porn convention. The piece was featured in Substack Reads. It got a lot of comments. Many of them were good, but a lot of them were really mad at Substack for going anywhere near porn. Big surprise: a lot of the accounts yelling at Substack and me about that article were the same ones shouting free speech on Notes last week. One thing I always tell people when they call themselves a free speech absolutist is to try defending two types of objectionable speech. Personally, I think it's a weird life choice to rush out to defend hate speech, but if you can't be bothered to defend, say, porn at the same time, how committed to free speech are you really?

One last point. What you said about the Substack brand at the end is spot on. That's the thing that'll ultimately drive me away. I can't say, "check out my work on Substack" and have people think, "why is he writing on the Nazi site?"

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Pablo's avatar

You've already gotten a lot of praise on the high brow appeal of this wonderful piece, but I wanted to take a moment to celebrate this absolute gem of low brow lo hanging fruit:

"There is a window of time in which porn is interesting to look at, but that window tends to only last a few minutes before ending abruptly."

😗👌

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